wow I actually have time to examine a mesh.... Cory: Yeah the mesh is looking good. the only thing for me is the pole just off to the side of the nose on the upper cheek. I tend to stick mine more toward the side of the cheek as the area doesnt deform in a 'micro' way - unless I can eliminate it altogether. the rest is good, perhaps a few tweaks near the lip corners too jsut to give it some more meat Cheers jay