OK then - Pick a Venue and a date, and will see if I can make it. Just may be difficult because I work shifts (Work weekends some weeks ) Maybe Midlands area would be a good idea so that none of us have to travel that far? just a suggestion though..... Oh and Chris_H, no worries, if i'm going, then I can take you in my beemer - Sheffield is only 1/2Hr away from me. (In fact prob 20 mins since I got this beemer ) Scraggy