No chirone...what I meant was you can tell how good an army is (ie a people) by things like knowledge of medicine...ie First Aid. Nearly everyone in my industry has to do it...what Im saying is should it be compulsory....like they are doing over here now with organ donation...unless you object in writing you donate. Same with FA it should just be done....I know over here with summer coming LOTS of people will need it...usually because of swimming..heatstroke etc etc.