Hey guys, I have been watching this thread alot. I decided to experiment with a couple of expressions and particles, and I madw a scene with the matrix bullet effects. I didn't want to spend to much time on it at all because I have been really busy with this mo's challege. However, I do have a rough animation rendered, There are some slight problems with my particles, but I have fixed them, (you can see the first trail change style halfway thru). If you are interested I can post my test animation, If you like the way it looks, I can also post the Expression That I scene that I used for the bullet trail. Let me know if you are intersted, Brian