Yeh thanks dave,

I was following Kurt to a point, didnt think of that one at the time,bahahaha, although I use it quite a bit. When he extruded edges down for the elevators I found it too cumbersome and used that method you mentioned there.

You get kind of focussed on the tut but I try not to get stuck in methodology all of the time. I find if I think he is doing it long hand I will watch the vid a couple of times and work out the end goal and try to replicate it quicker, doesnt always work though, bahahaha, the joys of learning. I havent felt this inspired since school man!!!! 40 million LYA I might add.

Got my tut for the tie fighter and jedi fighter approved half an hour ago, bring on the fun!!!!

cheers bullet