Thanks guys,

Some of the key 'catch phrases' of 2002 was and is 'Global illumination, 'non-linear' and procedural (animation and modelling).

It would be great to see more discussion on these topics.

As for fakin GI maybe a special thread (ongoing) could be developed for the Lighting, camera and rendering forum that targets this and explores the techiniques, art, uses etc......

My use of GI (faking or real) is not to only make realistic scenes etc but,
more importantly
to create scenes that are (physically) based in some environment with its own rules for light etc......

Hope this makes sense.

A saying that paralles nicely with CG art........

"If it smells like fish then it aint good fish".....

re Jim