Thanks. It's definately a bug tho, it's not just a matter of selecting the manipulator tool. I could have a 2 or 4 window view with the exact same object selected, 3 will have the manipulator tool visible but one will not. Or else I'll be working in a window, everything will be fine then all the sudden I won't be able to see the manipulator tool. I haven't had this problem before Maya 8.5.