cheers. yeah, the red glow will at least be toned down, if not removed altogether. it looked ok at first i thought, but has become a bit overkill as more lights have been added. i guess its like his glowing rage emanating from deep inside his soul...or something! the projection looked basically identical to the original. at lvl 6 it was starting to lose some definition in places anyway, but i had just a few too many polys to comfortably step up another level. bullet. i started in that direction originally with the lighting, but im not happy with the hood at the moment, so will light that later when i am.