I got it to work BUT my sphere is a collider.....hmmmm you have me thinking now LOL...and yes I Googled how to shatter ncloth....Im not that smart like you David...he he he he

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EDIT....I worked it out....and my sphere is now not a collider....he he he he he

EDIT EDIT ........looks like I jumped too fast...LOL my sphere still had a collider from a test attached....DAMN YOU DAVID!!!!!!!!! aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg