Originally posted by gster123 You would either, make it up by judging on what the "person" underneeth would be wearing, or not model the body at all, just the armour/clothing Well put... do an overlay (one piece of paper on top of another) and put small-ish balls for where the joints go and fill in the major parts of the body with basic shapes to show gesture, then go in and give it the detail that you want. It's easy to learn gesture drawing and character development if you sit in on a college gesture drawing class. That's what I do at BYU, and it helps a lot! Sparticus