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# 4 16-11-2004 , 10:43 PM
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Yeah with Eisner out of the way things might be better, but Toy Story without Pixar would just Suck cos those guys really know their stuff with those characters, they're icons for christ sake!!, I've lost count of the times Disney has laid off a cg dept here or an animation dept there, they have lost the plot a bit over the last few years with so called sequels to things like The Lion King ( which was their last great piece of 2d if you ask me) although I thought Dinosaur was pretty well done, but again it was all shut down afterwards. If you go to a Disney store here in England its mostly the Pixar Related stuff thats saving their asses. Theres not much call for Mickey and Donald anymore, or stuff like the Lion King even.

Animation these days has gone 3d, period. Its the norm.

Sorry for the outburst

_J