Mayaniac: I agree about the lip and have knocked it down a tad but not entirely sure what you mean about the ear Jay: In this case it made sense as I matched the head to the photo's and projected first so it matched as I have deviated from the photos since as I haven't found the right model for what I want, and to be honest I still keep changing my mind a bit on how this girl should look as I have two female characters and want them to be different. I'll prob be fiddling for a while...