on see ing dilberts car an his passion for nurbs and my absolute lack of passwion for them i decided to try it out. so i found a tut on the net an it happens to be the same as wat dilberts making(i didnt mean to clash) i done the ferrari tut on this site an wasnt keen on all the methods used but there was some good stuff in there that ill remember so heres my progress i laid out the curves using EP - is CV curves better? also take a look at the last pic wen i attach the isopams go crazy unlike all the other times wen i attach the isopams flow and i have the correct settings c&c welcome and advice is greatly welcomed!! :attn: :bow: