Yeh I know, I'll try to get a wire up when I get a little more done though, haven't slept in a few days though, so I fear that if I open Maya now I'll break it Thanks d00d EDIT: Decided to give it a whirl and managed to not screw it all up, so here's the wire Oh also, anyone happen to know anything about the poly crease tool? I have to keep this smooth as hell and preferably under 120k tris... And I've seen a ton of models on here (that recent Enzo for example) which seem to do so with ease... I'm guessing with the crease tool? But I keep getting weird results