Well I think I have gottern my wired problem with maya under control - been tweaking this for a hour and no crashing yet but will have to wait and see.

Yep eyes were off but that was because I kept the wrong half of the face - so thats now sorted - moved the ref so its a little more centrel - worked from the left hand side (her right hand side of her face)

Going to go make an ear now (missing from ref - errr).

The plan for this one is now to build her shoulders and pratice some head rigging and lipsyning - but going for as real as I can make her. Going to see if I can get Mudbox to handle her as I did a test with it last night and go up to 10 millon polys on the free head it gives you and it was still going strong.

Any one have a good eye tut as the one from gnoman seems to have gone.

Thx for the kind words so far