Originally posted by d24e as for those standards compliance issues you say. Do you mind giving some examples? I'm not sure what you mean by that. well I've tried Phoenix before (witch is based on the Mozilla engine) and it doesnt have things that IE does...like for example when somebody uploads a picture to the forums, with Phoenix, I can't see the picture... because the file doesnt end with a file extention like .jpg... there are good and bad things about IE and Mozilla...it's just a matter of preference -Emo