Hi iv attached an image to better explain my problem. on the the top left is my bike in the viewport and in the top right is the completed file found on the tutorial dvd once opened. for some reason i can view the shader in my viewport if i open the already completed file from the dvd, but if i make it myself, exactly the same, i get this grey shader instead. At render time both images look the same its just in the viewport, which makes me think its a setting somewhere but i cant find it. hardware rendering and high-quality render don't make a difference to the problem. Im using maya 2009 by the way if that makes any difference.