Introduction to Maya - Modeling Fundamentals Vol 2
This course will look in the fundamentals of modeling in Maya with an emphasis on creating good topology. It's aimed at people that have some modeling experience in Maya but are having trouble with
complex objects.
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As for stwert who is making weird objects just go the route of using the zsphere and retopo over the object. That is also a fairly easy way to go.
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1) I didn't have zBrush
2) I didn't have a decent base mesh, so I decided to make a new one
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Yes. Yes I am making weird objects. Right now I'm painting osteoclasts.As for stwert who is making weird objects just go the route of using the zsphere and retopo over the object.
John, you said you had 4K textures, are you going to post a textured version?
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3d coat is far superior.
John: Again great job, you've shown what can be achieved with the use of 'new toys'. I'd love to see some retopo by the guys the old fashion way to appreciate the alleged Zbrush way.....its very clear from this thread, the non aprreciation of what youve achieved without the other software.
Looks like I taught you well mate
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That you did mate, that you did.Looks like I taught you well mate
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I did, but I'm hesitant to post them, as it's of a real person. I have permission from the company to post my results, but I don't have permission from the actual model.John, you said you had 4K textures, are you going to post a textured version?
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Sure, I just assumed that was directed at me.And you clearly stated that. I was simply providing the workflow so other people could do it. Then others on the forum can have their own heads as well.
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I have seen that head before.
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Firstly, Ive found that scan data slightly bloats the subject matter if its a human subject as we cant stand still long enough while we get scanned (unless in a vice LOL) so dont ever treat them as a given, they will get you probably 85 to 90% there, so its really worth using ref into image planes to and lining them up as well in the scene.
Myself and another senior modeler recently did some stuff for the movie Enders Game and had to do digi double heads for two of the principle cast members, my friend and colleague was given a very hi res scan and ref images and I had to do it all from photos only. The scan was done by a well known company yet because the actor had moved in the process, there were problems with matching etc. What we did do was take the scan into 3dcoat and project it onto a generic base mesh (one button click) and it matched the base to the scan really quite well. It took 3days of getting to the point where it matched really well, and myself another two days manually.
My point is that the downside with all this nice projecting is the calculating for edge loops will need reworking/moving everytime, ie; mouth corners, eye corners, eye lid thickness etc. AND to cap that off, no head is symmetrical so forget mirroring the mesh across just to get it done...thats the first sign of cg and is the lazy way out!!!!
So what Im saying is to everyone, its a great way to get you started on the road to match for match likeness, but just be aware the process IS NOT a clean one. So the more ref you can use, the better the result at the end of the day.
123d is a good bit of kit for the home user wanting to try it out and see what they can achieve.
Sorry if this puts a dampner on the whole subject, but I want people to realise theres work involved and its not going to be quick.
So before attempting to do it the quick way, learn to appreciate the old fashioned way, learn the real fundamentals, then when you do the quick way you'll know know exactly what to correct and how. its like when people rely on an auto mapper for uvs...its the same principle....
Sorry to clog the thread John, just need to give an eyeopener
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On top of the scan data, I was given over 100 reference images that not only helped in the texturing process, but also gave me invaluable reference when modeling the parts that the scan had missed. I even wrote a program that will align a 3d model to an image plane, a la PF-Track, just to help me. I'm sure you know how much of a pain it is to line them up manually.
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Again good job
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