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11-01-2003, 11:28 AM   #1
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Maya 4.5 Savvy or Maya Character Animation?
I think that I am beginning to be totally absorbed by Maya and love the feedback that you can get from this great website. So in my endeavours to learn more and get more familiar with this monster program I thought I would buy another book.

I don't know whether to get 'Maya 4.5 Savvy' or 'Maya Character Animation' both published by Sybex. I am keen on character animation but I would like to learn more modeling techniques and especially texturing, which I kind of avoid by just slapping on shaders.

Has anyone got these books and could they give an overview of them? I doubt I will find them in Waterstones or Otakars since they probably either haven't reached the shops yet or have been snatched up. Buying from Amazon or Computer Manuals after reading their reviews, I find, is like buying blind...

Thanks in advance!
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11-01-2003, 11:34 AM   #2
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I think the Maya Character Animation book looks pretty good, but I've only just flipped through it briefly. The local Barnes and Noble had a BIG pile of this one, so you may have more luck than you think looking around for it.

Maya 4.5 Savvy is, from what I understand, an update of Mastering Maya 3. I'm not sure I've seen this one on the shelves, but I haven't kept my eye out.

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13-01-2003, 11:21 AM   #3
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Mark mate, don't have Barnes & Noble in the U.K. but thanks anyway.

I have just looked at Sybex's Website and much to my delight they have a sample chapter that comes in *.pdf format which I have downloaded and looked at. Not only does the book cover character modeling but texturing, rigging and animating too! It also includes a chapter on Deep Paint - I think I'll stick to Photoshop for the moment.

Anyway, it looks like just what I am after so I think I'll order my copy today and then give it a review on this website - I am sure Kevin would appreciate that.

I'm all excited again, was miserable this morning...
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i love getting new books! I recently purchased the secrets of the pros book.... although I was initialy disapointed I was incouraged by philip to read a little more...

so as soon as I get time I will look into it some more..

let me know what you think of the above book you mentioned gaz!
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13-01-2003, 12:08 PM   #5
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my point being that if B&N has it here in the U.S. it should hit shelves in the UK pretty soon.

Of course it may take a while to translate it into your language. All those words like "color" and "colour," you know.

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13-01-2003, 01:12 PM   #6
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Ha Ha Ha - Very Funny! I guess you lot (US) cannot help it if you cannot sepll anywya...

Quick bit of research shows that I can get it now from Amazon for 40 but if I go to Computer Manuals I can get it for 38 and only 1 for delivery!

Guess I know where I am goin! One review cumin' right up!!!:banana:
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13-01-2003, 01:25 PM   #7
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dam I just looked at the head moder tutorial on that pdf preview... GOOD LUCK is all im saying!

far to complicated way to do a head IMO
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13-01-2003, 02:04 PM   #8
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i love getting new books! I recently purchased the secrets of the pros book.... although I was initialy disapointed I was incouraged by philip to read a little more...

so as soon as I get time I will look into it some more..

let me know what you think of the above book you mentioned gaz!
I was also initially a little disappointed. But there is more in the book than it seems. Lots of tiny tips & tricks hidden between the lines. For example I've read the ch8 at least three times and every time I've sussed something new
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HA-HA! I LAUGH IN THE FACE OF CHALLENGE... I FEAR NO TUTORIAL... Now what was it... how do you... er... um... aghhh... oopss... no... maybe... hmmmm.....
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13-01-2003, 02:16 PM   #10
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Uhm... where did you find the pdf?
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Hi K-Man

Just point your browser here and fire: http://www.sybex.co.uk/sybexbooks.nsf/booklist/4171

On the right and side of the page you will see a list of goodies about the book. Click on sample chapter, you can download it in three smaller parts or one big whopper!

Why am I waffling? Just hit this link and read the instructions:
http://www.sybex.co.uk/sybexbooks.ns...e?OpenDocument

Enjoy!!!
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Thanks. I wonder why those aren't at www.sybex.com... go figure
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Yippee!
I just got me Maya Character Animation book - all I can say so far is bloody hell, looking sweet!!! All in colour and has a lot of depth, covers all modelling, texturing, rigging and NLA animation.

I might have to start working 4 days a week so I can have the time to absorb it all.



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23-01-2003, 12:01 PM   #14
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Well I just had a Club Maya meeting last night in Hartford Ct. USA and thay were discussing the new Book Maya 4.5 Savvy and it is a great book. Also Complete Maya Programming is fantastic.
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Hi Gang back again

Been reedin' me Maya Character animation book - it's bloody big!!! Initial thoughts are that it contains a huge amount of info but it doesn't go into too much depth on the details. This is difficult though for a book of this nature since it is covering modelling, texturing, animation, rigging and some of Maya's new features. If it went into the detail I would like it would be 2,000 pages long!

I got it from Amazon for 36 compared to 48 RRP. I would recommend it to people who might not even want to do character animation but modelling and texturing only. The bit I like is at the end of the book where it talks you through a little frog project from initial drawings through modelling, texturing, rigging and animation - I love these kinda fings!

One area that I am completely confused about though is that in that last project with the frog they create one set of bones to manipulate the rig then another set of bones to control these bones. This is a feature that I am used to in A:M, you have geometry bones which have DIFFERENT control bones, but I cannot figure out why in Maya since the bones are exact duplicates...
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