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03-09-2011, 02:52 PM   #181
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Hey Dave, thanks.

I really dont know on the teeth side of things , I have heard that before but I really dont know generally.

References, I have so many of her, I think theres a shot on the earlier posts of some of the cameras with images on them, otherwise just google 'how to steal a million' you should get the same stuff I have been using. theres some nice color ones of her which are quite rare as most of her are that technicolor look or black and white, that said it hasnt been easy getting skin tones for her as she always looked bloody flawless in her appearance, she almost looks airbrushed naturally LOL

Lips, 'they stand out'??? Hmmm? no I will actually disagree with that comment John, sorry mate, its dependant on the actual person, natural lips have a fall off toward the edges anyway, which is what Ive gone for. Generally lip pigment falls off towards the outer edges more, but as I said it will differ from person to person. We all have that line below the lip, perhaps the one here is possibly too prominent in which case I could adjust the uv to bring it down but otherwise the anatomy is correct.

The majority of color images of this lovely lady has extended lip makeup over that line, so this raises the actual question of what does look right, make or no make up, or on the lip edge or over? Women with thin lips do it for an obvious reason. Typically i didnt choose an easy subject matter in this area LOL

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03-09-2011, 05:50 PM   #182
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nice! looks real good so far. Sorry might have missed if you said this earlier, but will the hair be rendered with a higher LOD? right now it looks like quite angular on the right hand side.
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03-09-2011, 07:48 PM   #183
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Tweaky, Tweaky,Tweaky,Tweaky,Tweaky,Tweaky,Tweaky,Tweaky,T weaky,

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03-09-2011, 07:49 PM   #184
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Thanks Dom

Well I'll see what the PC can handle LOL.

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06-09-2011, 03:52 PM   #185
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This is looking really cool Jay. I think you've captured here fragile features well.

Dave, displacement maps are used extensively in production for both character and non-character models (more so than normal maps which are more used in games). Interesting point that you make Jay about the use of displacement maps in Avatar (or rather what they were not used for), it would be interesting to know in other cases how facial expressions are handled in regards to displacement maps - frowns and facial creases changing for example.
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06-09-2011, 06:50 PM   #186
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Thank Gubar, jeez mate its been a while.

For facial stuff its a mix, personally I have used both, but the displacement were used more for just detailing and not the facial expressions themselves. Uts all swings and roundabouts, if you can do the detail in the geo the payoff is better anyway.

anyway have an update, its coming to a close now, tweaking the lighting, as this is the setup I want, just got a few bits to do on the mesh, and also adjust the camera depth of field and then I'll bash out a big render

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06-09-2011, 07:20 PM   #187
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Great work Jay ...who would have thought you would be such a romantic
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06-09-2011, 07:36 PM   #188
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Lovely work, the best Ive seen on here, thanks gubar for clearing that up are the displacements fine detail or low poly to high............dave
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06-09-2011, 08:11 PM   #189
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Thanks for the kind words guys, much appreciated.

Hey Jsprogg......good to have you back mate. I am such a softy really LOL

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06-09-2011, 08:28 PM   #190
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Gorgeous... I was going to comment from the previous render that it would be very hard to darken the eyelashes without even touching the eyelids (not that I know anything about makeup), but I see you addressed that with this last render.
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06-09-2011, 08:39 PM   #191
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Hey Stwert

Thank you.

I just added more thickness to the lash hairs and also added extra hairs to the clumps just to bring them out

thanks dude
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07-09-2011, 02:08 AM   #192
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Really great work J but that hair is really putting me off maybe its the lack of variations....
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07-09-2011, 02:25 AM   #193
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Fantastic Job mate
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07-09-2011, 06:59 AM   #194
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Great work Jay, looks awesome!
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07-09-2011, 05:52 PM   #195
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Very nice! The eyes are great!
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