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# 1 14-03-2008 , 01:57 AM
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maya+zbrush self portrait

this is something i have been working on for one of my zbrush classes. our assignment was to model our head then make ourselves look old using zbrush. it still needs work (ears and hair) i plan to complete it for use in my demo reel.

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# 2 14-03-2008 , 02:06 AM
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im just new to 3D so I dont think I can be really helpful... but I think that between nose and eyebrow it can be retouched
but maybe its just me with the angles
but its really beautiful I cant wait to be able to do things like that
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# 3 14-03-2008 , 02:10 AM
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I think the bridge between the nose does seem a little large, but then again it might be how your face is built. Mind giving us a reference so that we can help you improve to make it more realistic?


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# 4 14-03-2008 , 02:39 AM
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Sag the chin so it complements the saggy cheeks you've got.
Increase the depth of the line from the nose to the mouth.
Drop the lower area of the eyebrows (or the top eyelids) slightly.
Slightly enlarge the end of the nose and make it drop a very small amount.

In the older version you look like you've flattened the cheeks under the eyes. What you need to do is keep them as the young version and then create bags under the eyes, kind of like taking the area immediately under the eye (but not the cheekbone) back a small amount to form a near crease. Then you can baggy that up a little.

The best advice though is to search the web for images of old people and see how areas of the face change with age.

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I did a similar thing with a model head I was experimenting with. If its any use you can see it here:
https://www.flash-fx.net/3D/gallery/ -> scroll down to the generic head mesh bit and compare the second and third thumbnails for differences (click to open them large). Also the 7th thumbnail along is a kind of cartoony old man.

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Originally posted by alexanderH
I think the bridge between the nose does seem a little large, but then again it might be how your face is built. Mind giving us a reference so that we can help you improve to make it more realistic?

this is my front reference shot:

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# 6 14-03-2008 , 04:32 AM
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Your front ref isnt really matching to what would be the true front.

I would get someone to get a shed load of photographs of me at all angles, then set you modeling cam to that focal legnth (to give a "proper" perspective.

Try and get a close as possible likeness to yourself now in maya as a base mesh (not the full likeness just structure, bone muscle tendons etc in the base mesh, keeping a tight eys on edge loops), then go into Z. If you have Z3.1 then try sculpting with gravity using the std brus, pich and inflate, that should be enough to get you through, add the alphas later on to add the pores etc.

If you get the loops in there now on the base so they match now when you move em about it should still keep the likeness but change the look.


Youve got a good start there, so keep it up, also addding ears will help a load.


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# 7 14-03-2008 , 06:00 AM
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the camera angle for the front ref is too low which could be throwing you off a bit.

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