if there is anyway of earing free points i will do it , i can offer you my skills in photoshop CS but i dont thiink that you would require that seen as you are really good at Maya , but i am in need of tutorials to find a new way of moddeling , because my way at the moment is box moddeling with polygons primatives and i am learning this soon and i when i become good i would like to help make tutorials with you guys because you sound like a nice bunch of people , so if you have lots of points and dont need them give them to linx02, pleaseeeeee