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# 1 30-10-2003 , 08:23 AM
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do Not buy Nvidia FX

Some shader instructions can make it enter on an infinite bucle and make it hang your pc (and it sucks in DX9) (it was a deal i cuoldnt refuse tough, 120€ a FX5600 with 256MbDDR...) but if youre going to buy a new card i recommend to buy ATI


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# 2 31-10-2003 , 12:50 AM
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i say the same user added image

# 3 31-10-2003 , 10:24 AM
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and also the latest drivers seem to currupt most viewports... so cheers... im starting to think on returning to my old and trusty gef2ti...

# 4 03-11-2003 , 06:25 PM
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last known bugfree drivers 45.12

52.16 are bad... and then everybody is saying nvidia has cool drivers...

# 5 03-11-2003 , 08:14 PM
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Re: do Not buy Nvidia FX

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(it was a deal i cuoldnt refuse tough, 120€ a FX5600 with 256MbDDR...)

I currently have an ATI and am mourning the loss of my GF. Was that FX5600 the Ultra line or not? If not, then....well, it's the budget version and you kinda get what you pay for user added image

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I got the 4800 rather than the 5K series that I could have afforded because of the quality. I love the way it runs. Seems fast to me. It spins my jeep shaded and realtime. The 4600 was actually better I was just having problems finding it.

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Originally posted by dragonfx
and also the latest drivers seem to currupt most viewports... so cheers... im starting to think on returning to my old and trusty gef2ti...

The card isn't designed for running high end 3d software. Get yourself a quadro fx then see if you recommend ATI. ATI is ok for playing direct X games but not for Maya.

# 8 04-11-2003 , 12:54 AM
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I have a GnVidia eForce Go5600 in my laptop (which is the home to my Maya) and I have not had one problem. I run my screen Res @ 1600X1200 and Maya runs smooth as a prom queens thigh.user added image I do wish I had more RAM thouggh, maybe for christmas!

# 9 04-11-2003 , 11:28 AM
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well the gef2 always has runned maya smoothly... (and i ve seen maya running on 4mb intel 3d cards back on school days...)

detonator 5x.xx are intended to cheat... err... adress performance isues(specially under directx9 features, after scoring half as ati on all benchamarks on all price ranges)... you would spect some problems like corrupted wievports etc on latest detonators... but infinite loops and it hanging your pc!?... with version 45 is stable and fine, tough...(and it was a pain going back to older detonators...)... so if youre buying gef for the support....

right now most non ultra gef5600128mb are on the 230€ to 300€ range so still was a good deal...

On the proffesional range and for what im being told from all sources(benchmarks and users) i would have to recomend ati too (then why the hell i stick with gef!?user added image)


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does the list of no too bad cards include gforce fx 1000?


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# 11 12-11-2003 , 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by dragonfx

On the proffesional range and for what im being told from all sources(benchmarks and users) i would have to recomend ati too (then why the hell i stick with gef!?user added image)

Can you provide a link showing benchmarks where ATI beats a Quadro fx card in Maya? I have seen a few benchmarks and ATI always trails.

Don't get me wrong, i'm no Nvidia fan boy, i'll purchase whatever works best. I think if you did a poll of maya users worldwide you'd find Nvidia way out in front, can't all be wrong. I bought a new ATI card last year for use in Maya and took it back the same day. It was atrocious, slow, geometery dissapearing etc.


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# 12 12-11-2003 , 10:45 PM
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I also have the impression that NVidia still rocks with OpenGL apps (such as Maya) and ATI is sometimes the winner in DirectX apps.

Still haven't decided what to get next though. I'm running with a GF2 GTS (with softquadro drivers). Most of the time it is enough for me but it definately is getting obsolete...


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# 13 13-11-2003 , 12:11 AM
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That's what i was running prior to buying the ATI kbrown. TheGF2 was a pretty good card, even running Maya. I agree with what you say about open gl and directX.

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