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# 1 25-10-2007 , 02:33 AM
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A little hope for the rest of us!

I just listened to a podcast with C. Andrew Nelson. For those of you who don't know who he is, he was a visual effects supervisor on several movies as he worked for ILM and LucasArts. He also played Darth Vader for a few commercials.

But what I learned about him is that he was completely self taught. Everything he knew about visual effects and animation he learned by himself. From what I gathered, he did not go to school for any of it.

So for all of you who would like to eventually break into the industry (maybe even some company like ILM) and are not getting a degree there is still hope!

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# 2 02-11-2007 , 05:17 AM
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Hehe well I've always been told that 3d degrees doesnt mean a thing, get a nice portfolio and you get a nice work. user added image

# 3 04-11-2007 , 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by Weyu
Hehe well I've always been told that 3d degrees doesnt mean a thing, get a nice portfolio and you get a nice work. user added image

A college degree never hurt anyone.


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# 4 05-11-2007 , 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by AnthonyCg
A college degree never hurt anyone.

Exactly, it all helps. But I ve got to say that if you can demonstrate your skills then theres no reason why you wouldent get the job.

On a side note, theres a guy in 3d world who writes a coloumn who was saying that when the 3d industry started there were no degrees/courses etc so a lot of "veterans " of the field dont have any qualifications, they learnt it all via passion and getting the job done, which is probably what the guy was talking about


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# 5 06-11-2007 , 03:22 AM
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a third of the guys in the studio I work in come from the supinfocom, a few from british unis and the rest is self taught, but the french guys really fu stick out, if you look at their reels they're pretty phantastic.


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# 6 07-11-2007 , 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by AnthonyCg
A college degree never hurt anyone.

i have a lot of friends with college degrees that aren't worth the paper they're written on and now have debt up to their tits paying off their student loans... so i don't think that's true.

# 7 08-11-2007 , 03:11 AM
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Well I live in Sweden so there is no collage fees. And I also like the idea of having a sanctuary where you can train 3d all day long without things like work etc. user added image

# 8 08-11-2007 , 03:37 AM
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hehe Arran, suppose it's how you look at it after my degree I couldent be happier, even though i'm in debt!


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# 9 08-11-2007 , 04:26 AM
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yeah - sure it all depends on what degree you get. what pisses me off is that you are made to feel that you have to get a degree to get a job and what you really end up with is shitloads of debt and no job to pay it off. (depending on where you live of course. damn you sweden! - free education and everyone is hot!)

i actually think that it's a pretty disgusting scam.

if you have any artistic ability you get doubly screwed.

kids, if you have any inclination toward art, listen to your parents - DO NOT waste your money on an education in art where all you learn is that nobody draws anymore. get a degree in something useful...engineering, law, **** it, even a fashion degree will serve you better than an art degree.

all education should be free.

# 10 08-11-2007 , 04:29 AM
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Yes it is a fact that a small degree of socialism creates beatiful women and free stuff. To much socialism creates evil looking russians tho.

# 11 08-11-2007 , 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by arran

if you have any artistic ability you get doubly screwed.

kids, if you have any inclination toward art, listen to your parents - DO NOT waste your money on an education in art where all you learn is that nobody draws anymore. get a degree in something useful...engineering, law, **** it, even a fashion degree will serve you better than an art degree.

all education should be free.

I kinda have to disagree on this one, if you are talking about fine art i.e. painting sculpture etc you might have a point as it is terribly difficult to make a living even as a successful artist, but on the other hand why would you waste a good deal of your life on a job that you really hate if everything you want to do is art. If you're not passionate about your "proper" degree you're not going to get far on that one either.

And it's a completely different thing if you go down the design way, -what I did for the past four years. I got a nice job and many people from my year as well, and I love what I do.
So what I'd tell those "kids" is that if you go for something artistic, you'll have to be dedicated, if you sit in front of your work at 1am and hate it this is not for you, if you think art degrees are partying smoking pot throwing some paint on the floor and then roll around in it, maybe stick to something else. But if you work and commit yourself it pays of.

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yeah - i tend to agree with you farbtopf - i was talking more about a fine art type degree, though i wasn't suggesting that you do something that you're not interested in, rather to do something that has some prospects of a job at the end of it - i guess it's easy to start ranting when you are sitting at work twiddling your thumbs. user added image

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