Integrating 3D models with photography
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18-08-2009
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Staff_Of_Magius (Need help)
Newbie here. I'm trying to make the staff of magius because I thought it was relatively easy. It seems to be harder than it looks!
The staff of magius is supposed to be a magical staf from the dragonlance universe. Visually, it is a smooth staff, the top of which is an orb clutched by dragon claws (or what it seems to be).
I've done a draft of what I think it should look like, but I'm bothered with the part where the gold dragon claws join the wooden staff. It just seems sudden.
Any suggestions on any parts of the image.
Thank you very much for your time.
- Darkover -
PS: Hey... there seems to be a double post on this even though I posted only once.... How do I delete the other post?
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19-08-2009
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Or maybe a band encrusted with gems?
Maybe some incandescence on the orb itself and some adjustments to lighting and shadows?
It's a good start - lots of possibilities.
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19-08-2009
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Basically just try and get a longer join between the claws and the wood as that seemed to be the main difference between yours and the pics i found.
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19-08-2009
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Oh well... have to get the references for ideas then.
I'll try to lengthen the gold parts and possibly get a band around the 'joint'.
I also need help making a realistic candleflame. I have no idea where to start.
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20-08-2009
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The softbody works great for the animated motion of the flame.
My shading wasn't so great, but it turned out OK for me.
https://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/tut...le/candle.html
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Hope that helps!
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24-08-2009
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I found that harsh transitions in a model in the geometry itself or in texturingaspects result in onrealistic renders.
The knob and the base of the staff are to harshly divided try to blend in thediverse materials i have included a roughpaintover which for one illustrate my bad drawing skills -yes even with a wacom-, but if you use a bit of imagination you will see that i tried painting it as if the staffbase is holding the crystal/gem or whatever you want to call it;
here is a link to an image of a species of tree that is very common here in the netherlands;
https://www.ontwerpeenerf.nl/images/lnh/knotboom9.jpg.
If you want to incorporate the white thing aswell make sure it comes back on another part of the staff asweel maybe at the bottom.
The last thing look at photoreference when creating stuff, if you are making a wizardstaff of wood, then the wizard is most likely to be found in some english or norwegion forrest talking to birds and stuff like that so his staff would be naturlike aswell , that has to get back in the model to set it apart from just another staff.
good luck
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24-08-2009
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What i usually do when in maya is press 5 and then 7 (make sure when you have lights in the scene that they are not visible or in a layer that's notvisible ), this way i check up on silhoutte i found during by indinan jones wip that textures and shading distort the way i and perhaps others to look at stuff when you strip that away you" ll see some raw facts and maybe even some stuff you need to tweak
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24-08-2009
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"The Staff is wooden and has a golden dragon's claw at the top. The claw clutches an orb which can only be destroyed by dragonfire, which is where the light emanates from when the spell is cast. The orb is also used in a war-spell that creates light so powerful it was able to blind Chaos."
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Thanks a lot mastone. Yes you're right. I have absolutely no experience in 3D. Maya is my first try (which I'm enjoying immensely).
Based on pictures of this unique staff on the net as well as its lore and how it looks in the official movie Dragonlance: Dragons of Autumn Twilight, the gold claws at the top are a must (precisely how I modeled). Also, the wooden staff base itself can't have too many adornments. It's supposed to be very smooth.
My problem is one of design. What do I include or change to make the transition from shiny dragonscale-like gold to smooth wood? Also, how do I make the 'smoothness' factor of the base stand out without making it look bland?
What is erazerbrush and how do I access it?
This is a unique staff, so the overall look cannot be changed from what I have made, but I can tweak little things or add minor details. It's the texture and the 'joint' that's problematic. I actually used real snake scales for the texture of the gold part, but it doesn't seem... scaly enough.
Thank you again for your time and feedback!
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PS: If anyone is wondering why I'm so enthusiastic about this, it's because I love dragonlance and this staff is an absolute icon for artifacts of that series. The staff has a very rich history and is partially sentient.
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24-08-2009
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It's just so you have another angle as to how approach the description i think that i made a glow a little strong and adding depth of field would greatly improve the image, but is just an example for how to possibly present a final render.