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stedo · 01-09-2003, 06:25 PM

Guess it's time for me to get it on with this character modelling thingie I've heard so much about.

Koncept from http://www.onnovanbraam.com/, the model isn't really proportional to any living woman at all. But I guess it could be cool with a superhero character style model sortof. ehm.

stedo · 01-09-2003, 06:29 PM

Oh. Sorry for the big concept image (also sorry for misspelling concept). Forgot to scale it down.
Subd's are something totally new to me, c&c much appreciated.
This is how far I've got so far.

silviapalara · 02-09-2003, 12:28 AM

Nice! The thighs seem a bit wide in the front shot, but well proportioned in the side view.
Also the shoulders look very square in the front view.

You are right, NO living woman has those proportions...

dave_baer · 02-09-2003, 05:26 PM

heyyy! heh heh... I used that same image for a model once.

If you're looking to get real proportions, you wont get them using that diagram. It's a typically 'comic' style. But it will give you good proactice to making the form. Gonna keep watching this thread to see the updates.

stedo · 02-09-2003, 07:02 PM

Found the Polygon Proxy Mode and I'm in love with subds.

Started on the head and added some detail all over the model. Any hints on how to best model the face; nose, mouth, ear and such from the start I have?
Should I use the split poly tool in poly proxy mode and extrude or try to refine the mesh in subds?
c&c as always very appreciated.

- S

brian_ellebracht · 02-09-2003, 07:39 PM

gOOD STart. I usually try to do all of my editing in Poly mode. I often switch back and forth from Poly to Sub D and back. Just make sure when you convert it you do it by verticies and at a level of 0. GL
Brian

stedo · 02-09-2003, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brian_ellebracht
Just make sure when you convert it you do it by verticies and at a level of 0. GL
Brian

I'm not sure I get it. Do I want to convert the subd object to polys or the poly control proxy?
If I convert the subd-obj to polys and then back to subd all hell brakes lose.

Thanks for the feedback btw.

- S

brian_ellebracht · 02-09-2003, 09:08 PM

I do things differntly then most people... Um.. I usually take some steps that may cause alot of extra time, but because I am so used to it, it saves me time. Thats kind of confusing. But what I do... I make my stuff in Polys... Everyonce in awhile I will convert to Subd's to take alook at what it is going to look like when I am done... then I convert back to polygons (not poly control proxy) and make whatever adjustments I need to. I like to keep as few polys as possible before the ending result, because it keeps unwanted "waves" and indentions out of your model. When I convert from Sub D's to Poly, I covert by Verticies and you have to make sure that the level is set to zero, or else you are going to get a really heavy mesh. Not what you want. when you convert back to Poly this way, then it is like you never converted to Subd's in the first place, so when you are ready, you can go back and convert it to Sub d's without any problems... I don't like to use the poly control proxy option, because for me it takes to much time, and whe I try to edit stuff, it slows down my computer. But that is my personal preference. Well.. Good luck, if you have anymore questions for me please feel free to ask. Thanks,
Brian

silviapalara · 02-09-2003, 11:51 PM

Brian that's a very good suggestion you made there. I always dread going from subdivs to polys because the mesh becomes huge and heavy. I will most definately try the settings you mentioned. I also would like to go back and forth between the 2 methods, because there are some things you can only do with regular polys and some things you need subdivs. What you suggest is going to make my life a lot easier.

01-09-2003, 06:25 PM	#1
stedo Subscriber Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Female Subd Character Guess it's time for me to get it on with this character modelling thingie I've heard so much about. Koncept from http://www.onnovanbraam.com/, the model isn't really proportional to any living woman at all. But I guess it could be cool with a superhero character style model sortof. ehm. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Stefan Doverud <a href="http://www.doverud.com/">www.doverud.com</a>

01-09-2003, 06:29 PM	#2
stedo Subscriber Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh. Sorry for the big concept image (also sorry for misspelling concept). Forgot to scale it down. Subd's are something totally new to me, c&c much appreciated. This is how far I've got so far. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Stefan Doverud <a href="http://www.doverud.com/">www.doverud.com</a>

02-09-2003, 12:28 AM	#3
silviapalara Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 234 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice! The thighs seem a bit wide in the front shot, but well proportioned in the side view. Also the shoulders look very square in the front view. You are right, NO living woman has those proportions... __________________ Sy

02-09-2003, 05:26 PM	#4
dave_baer Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Plantation, Florida Posts: 1,568 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	heyyy! heh heh... I used that same image for a model once. If you're looking to get real proportions, you wont get them using that diagram. It's a typically 'comic' style. But it will give you good proactice to making the form. Gonna keep watching this thread to see the updates. __________________ Dave Baer Professor of Digital Arts Digital Media Arts College Boca Raton, Florida dbaer@dmac.edu Last edited by dave_baer : 02-09-2003 at 05:28 PM.

02-09-2003, 07:02 PM	#5
stedo Subscriber Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Found the Polygon Proxy Mode and I'm in love with subds. Started on the head and added some detail all over the model. Any hints on how to best model the face; nose, mouth, ear and such from the start I have? Should I use the split poly tool in poly proxy mode and extrude or try to refine the mesh in subds? c&c as always very appreciated. - S Attached Thumbnails __________________ Stefan Doverud <a href="http://www.doverud.com/">www.doverud.com</a>

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02-09-2003, 07:39 PM	#6
brian_ellebracht Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: St. louis Mo Posts: 1,580 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	gOOD STart. I usually try to do all of my editing in Poly mode. I often switch back and forth from Poly to Sub D and back. Just make sure when you convert it you do it by verticies and at a level of 0. GL Brian __________________ Please check My (old) website!

02-09-2003, 09:08 PM	#8
brian_ellebracht Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: St. louis Mo Posts: 1,580 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	I do things differntly then most people... Um.. I usually take some steps that may cause alot of extra time, but because I am so used to it, it saves me time. Thats kind of confusing. But what I do... I make my stuff in Polys... Everyonce in awhile I will convert to Subd's to take alook at what it is going to look like when I am done... then I convert back to polygons (not poly control proxy) and make whatever adjustments I need to. I like to keep as few polys as possible before the ending result, because it keeps unwanted "waves" and indentions out of your model. When I convert from Sub D's to Poly, I covert by Verticies and you have to make sure that the level is set to zero, or else you are going to get a really heavy mesh. Not what you want. when you convert back to Poly this way, then it is like you never converted to Subd's in the first place, so when you are ready, you can go back and convert it to Sub d's without any problems... I don't like to use the poly control proxy option, because for me it takes to much time, and whe I try to edit stuff, it slows down my computer. But that is my personal preference. Well.. Good luck, if you have anymore questions for me please feel free to ask. Thanks, Brian __________________ Please check My (old) website!

02-09-2003, 11:51 PM	#9
silviapalara Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 234 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Brian that's a very good suggestion you made there. I always dread going from subdivs to polys because the mesh becomes huge and heavy. I will most definately try the settings you mentioned. I also would like to go back and forth between the 2 methods, because there are some things you can only do with regular polys and some things you need subdivs. What you suggest is going to make my life a lot easier. __________________ Sy

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