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oldhippie_tom 12-02-2010 01:30 PM

Algerian Palace, Expedition of 1878
 
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Good morning everyone. I have started another project. I wasn't sure if I would continue with this, but think I will. I don't have a camera or lights for the scene just yet. So this update was from the Perspective Window. I will post a picture of progress the next post.

I had seen this picture on a free texture site I go to. It interested me and I have been fooling with it for a couple of days. Good to be busy!!

Dave had suggested a vehicle or aircraft from Avatar. I think I would like to do the Scorpion, but didn't get to see the movie, as my girlfriend got snowed in, and there is not enough reference for it yet.

oldhippie_tom 12-02-2010 01:31 PM

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And this is my progress so far.

Have a GOOD weekend!!!

daverave 12-02-2010 02:01 PM

Hi Tom
Nice start, this is manly texturing. Look farward to your progress..............dave

ctbram 12-02-2010 05:27 PM

Looking good OHT. Looking forward to the texturing as well.

Cheers,

oldhippie_tom 12-02-2010 07:36 PM

Many thanks guys!! I have looked at the stairs and they didn't seem proportioned very well. I worked on them and the arch entry had to be moved back then, I belive. I hope to have an update soon.

I have my fingers crossed and hope the texture goes as planned. But I do make a fool out of myself sometimes, and may once again. But will give it a shot!!

oldhippie_tom 14-02-2010 01:32 AM

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Good evening once again!! Well, time for a glass of wine and relax. I wanted to post an update on my project. This is where I am so far. I have a bit more modeling and then need to get everything UVed. Hopefully the modeling will be done next update.

It is a Saturday evening here and I wish that you all are, or have, enjoyed your evenings!!

daverave 14-02-2010 05:27 PM

Hi Tom
Dont know if it matters but the second step from the bottom should extend over on both sides, looking good........dave

oldhippie_tom 14-02-2010 07:56 PM

Gotcha!! But you think the proportions of the steps look ok?

Thanks Dave for your thoughts!!

Done modeling and soon some color on it!

Hope your weekend has been good. Been in the mid 80's here (30 Celsius). I'm bad, I know!!

15-02-2010 02:43 PM

holy crap, old hippie's still around!

i dont know much about architectural modeling but that's looking good man

:beer:

oldhippie_tom 15-02-2010 03:22 PM

HaHaHa!! Yes, my heart has not given up quite yet Acid!! Still have wine and smokes to finish first!! ;-)

Thank you for the kind words about my work. You have always been, thank you!!

oldhippie_tom 17-02-2010 01:12 AM

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Evening everyone. Wanted to post an update to my project. It has some color now and may not be as boring. I will start on all of the brick that goes in the entry next. I hope to go back and add some bump mapping and stuff to break it up a little. This has been, and is, fun!

Dave, a question if you will? In the back and the upper right center part of the building is a color that is not grey. Hope you see what I am talking about. But, I would like to use that for the background in the upper left and right and the back of the entrance. It is a falloff between Desert Sand (254,232,214) and Sand Stone (167,141,132). I did not use it as I have found if I like a color, being color blind, that it is reason to get an opinion as it is generally ugly. And with colors, I can work with them if they are numbers.

Hope all have had a good evening and think I will have a glass of wine and relax!!

Link to Original Render (1200X900):

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...thOriginal.png

daverave 17-02-2010 07:51 AM

Hi Tom
Looking good tom, not sure about the colour in the middle but the colour iver side of the top of the painting look good they of set the white nicely.The have a little ramp going on. If not sure about colour make a ramp in photoshop and use the paint dropper tool to get the top and bottom then post it here will let you know...........dave

oldhippie_tom 17-02-2010 02:18 PM

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Good morning!

Dave, thank you for your patience! I should have just shown what color I had come up with in the first place. Here is a render with it (He presents it sheepishly).

And thank you for liking the progress I have made!!

daverave 17-02-2010 02:35 PM

Hi Tom
I would stick with the origenal colour of the painting, using a darker tone as you have picked will destract from the main painted panels but you can give it a try and change later, I do like how clean your texturing is...............dave

oldhippie_tom 17-02-2010 04:25 PM

Thank you Dave, once again. Will come up with something more pleasing I hope!!

And thank you for the nice words about my work Dave.

oldhippie_tom 23-02-2010 03:28 PM

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Good morning!! I know it has been awhile since I have updated, but have been learning a lot in the time.

I have an update I would like to post up. I have gotten most of the texturing done, with the exception of the panels in the entry. I also would like to add some kind of brick or stone on the walk in the front of the building, I believe.

And thank you to everyone that has visited my project!!

Hope that your week is going good!! Almost March, time passes so fast!!

Original Render (1200X900):

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...23rdUpdate.png

ctbram 23-02-2010 06:06 PM

coming along very nicely oht.

This is the kind of texturing project I need to do. It's not super complicated.

As it is now it looks pristine. Do you plan on distressing it at all?

daverave 23-02-2010 06:18 PM

Hi Tom
ctbram beat me to it, I was going to ask if you there going to add some weathering. I know you like your models clean but it would make it stand out more, looking good .......dave

Edit: not heavy weathering but light

oldhippie_tom 23-02-2010 10:24 PM

Ctbram, thank you very much!! I had felt also that trying to texture it would be fun and a nice exercise! No, not complicated really at all. Needed to work on perspective and that sort of thing was fun also.

Dave, well I had thought about doing some dirt mapping on it and then I had thought I was not sure if I wanted to do a rendition of the drawing itself, and not so much a real picture. But since you both have mentioned it, then I should do it. It is a Palace, but let me work on that after the panels in the middle of the entry. I think it will be a good idea.

I had not seen your edit before I answered. I agree, just light stuff.

Thanks both of you for liking my work!!

P.S. Dave, can I ask if you have shown your Father your Avatar project? I can bet he likes it and is proud! Wanted to ask that for awhile.

daverave 24-02-2010 09:38 AM

Hi Tom
Alas both my parent are dead ( that OK they lived to a good age ).
I have tried to get my kid involved but I think kids these days like quick results (watching me model is like watching paint dry LOL) but they do like some of my stuff..............dave

jsprogg 24-02-2010 10:39 AM

i love the roof tiles Tom , but the textures definately needs some weathering to bring it to life .
Overall pretty accurate to the reference ,if i had to be picky i would say the the two rows of bricks above the arch need to be either a little further apart or slightly thinner because the gap between them is a little small and the detailed texture that needs to go in there might look a little over crowded as it stands.
Great job so far though .

oldhippie_tom 24-02-2010 02:21 PM

Good morning once again!!

Jsprogg, I appreciate it very much that you visited my project and left comments. I am glad that you like it and that you feel I have done good in representing it. I am backing up some and doing some dirt work on the scene and holding off on the panels till I finish that. I am sure it will look a little more pleasing then. About the bricks you mentioned along the top, and have to say I agree with you. There are a lot of them across there, I know as they are laid on their sides and not flat, and I tried to make it exact as the drawing. This drawing was very good for using in a view as a template and that helped tremendously . I know there are 137 rows of stone for each main columns. Did not count the bricks across the top, but used the drawing and made edges exactly what he had as I need that for a guide on the displacement maps. It made it a real pain to make the displacement maps with it being so close and to make the lines thin enough to make it not all run together. I will work on them some more and see it I can get them to look not so obvious. Again, thanks!!

Dave, I am sorry about your Dad, but know he would have been very pleased. And kids do have different priorities, huh?

oldhippie_tom 28-02-2010 12:45 PM

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Good morning everyone!! I wanted to post an update to my project. I have done some work on most everything and have tried to give it a more used, and appealing, appearance. I hope I am on the right track. I worked with the displacement for the bricks in the entry once more. I had never really made my own displacement maps, so this has been teaching me a lot!!

Hope everyone is enjoying there weekend!!!

Link to 1200X900:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...om/Feb28th.png

daverave 28-02-2010 02:18 PM

Hi Tom
Starting to look realy good, I realy like the tiles. The only grit are the big spaces iver side of the door and above needs a little variation ( pos sand filter in photo shop ) looking good.......dave

oldhippie_tom 28-02-2010 03:58 PM

Thank you Dave!! I was not sure if I was accomplishing it or not. Will keep after it then! Thanks!!

I will check on the area you mentioned, if I am correct, and do something to it.

Hope your day is, or has, been a good one!!

oldhippie_tom 04-03-2010 03:34 AM

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Good evening everyone!! Well, wanted to post an update on my project. I have finally gotten the red brick in the entrance to how I had hoped. I laughed as I went over them for like the 100th time, as a teacher I had in grade school as a young boy used to tell me, "Tom, you need to keep doing that till you get it right!" Well, I still am doing it!! HaHaHa!! Sorry, got carried away.

I have the dirt mapping to the point where I am mostly pleased with it, but some areas need some work. But will wait for your thoughts on all of that. I have the two top panels done in the entrance and will get the bottom one soon. I have been working with the bricks and blocks on the lower front, still picking at those. Need to do the entrance blocks again, since I have changed the others.

I have went on enough. I raise my glass and toast you all with a wish for you a nice evening, or day, filled with smiles!!


Original 1200X900 Render:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...r3rdUpdate.png

ctbram 04-03-2010 07:34 AM

looking awesome oht!

daverave 04-03-2010 09:58 AM

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Hi Tom
Your tiles look lovely, I have posted this picture to help you with the texture for the white washed walls and above, Im not saying do it like this as yours is a palace but tone it down so you get some variation............hope this helps dave

oldhippie_tom 04-03-2010 03:03 PM

Good morning!! Ctbram, thank you!! I appreciate it very much!! I also appreciate that you visit my project!

Dave, I have never enjoyed doing something that was white. Seems that it never renders quite right, at least for me. I am using a falloff, I believe that is the same as a ramp in Mental Ray, and have it with a white and an off white. But it does not seem to be effective. If I try and change it too much I start to get tinting. I will work some more on that. I will need to use the color sampler, as shades of color is what I don't see.

Thank you both, once again! And hope all is well!!

oldhippie_tom 04-03-2010 03:19 PM

Dave, not to carry on about this. But you made me think when you said whitewash. I will try using a base color with some noise, and then composite the white on top and vary the opacity. Just wanted you to know I am thinking!!

jsprogg 04-03-2010 08:31 PM

This starting to get there for sure , Tom im thinking the yellow bricks at the bottom should have some random value so not all bricks are exaclty the same colour yellow, pick a few and darken them slightly randomly.
The dirt map seems to be coming along and you have some nice uneven texute now on the open space walls either side.
Keep working this is gonna be awesome when finished .

Dango77 04-03-2010 08:57 PM

Hi Tom!

I apologise for not commenting on this sooner, I haven't been on Sm much lately, but I have been watching it progress though and am really liking it!

I agree with what jspogg has just posted, a little randomness on the brickwork would add a dash of realism and pull it all together even more. Maybe even do that on the roof tiles also, just brighten one tile here a fraction, darken another tile there a tad etc. To break up the colouring a little.

But all in all liking how it's going so far and will keep popping in to see how it's coming along!
Hope you are well apart from that, and enjoying the cooler weather you're having now, I'll bet it does feel nice!

We in the UK are starting to have slightly brighter and fractionally warmer weather, so after the sub zero temperatures we have had of late, loving it!

daverave 04-03-2010 10:19 PM

Hi again Tom
Have you tried just a bump map on the whitewashed wall, just a thought..........dave

oldhippie_tom 04-03-2010 10:23 PM

First, thank you both very much for your nice comments. I do appreciate it so. And for you visiting my project!

Jsprogg, I am working on the yellow bricks now, and adding a little bump to the white walls as Dave suggested. The yellow brick and using different textures, or pictures of yellow brick, on each and staggering them is a good idea. I have the UVs laid out in a manner that would be not too bad. I didn't like the polished look that they had before. I will keep working at them.

Gav, it has been awhile and hope you are doing well. I know the last time we chatted your life was crazy! Hope you are doing good on not smoking! The weather here is rain once or twice a week and then mild and nice the rest. The Spring and Fall are why we live here. I am glad your weather is becoming better, I am sure it is nicer when you are out and about! I will look into randomizing the the texture on the roof tiles also. Thanks Gav for very nice comments on my work!

oldhippie_tom 04-03-2010 10:26 PM

Dave, I realized that I had misunderstood what you had suggested. I thought you meant the color itself. But upon thinking on it I realized that you meant bump, like in a stucco. I am working on that now, along with the yellow bricks!! Thanks Dave for your help!!

oldhippie_tom 08-03-2010 03:32 AM

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A very good evening everyone! And I toast you all, and hope that your weekend has been good. I have an update to post and I have to say how much I appreciate the suggestions the last update. I have added the bump mapping that Dave has been suggesting. My mind was going somewhere else when I read his suggestions and missed what he had said about adding bump maps. I have also tried to implement what a Jsproggnd and Gavin suggested about trying to vary the color and/or texture on the red roofing tiles and the yellow bricks under the white walls.

I hope you guys think I have done a fair job.

Time for an Old Man to go to bed!!

1200X900 Original Render:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...r7thUpdate.png

daverave 08-03-2010 01:06 PM

Hi Tom
that is looking a lot better, I am have a bit of trouble see the texture as I am on my daughters laptop as my monitor has died (things these days dont last that long 2years)...........liking it dave

oldhippie_tom 08-03-2010 02:36 PM

Thank you Dave. I have another computer and the monitor for it displays things a lot darker. Isn't that the truth about the life of these gadgets. Hope you can get it replaced soon!

oldhippie_tom 15-03-2010 02:43 AM

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Good evening everyone! Boy, with the time change it is later than I feel it is!

Wanted to post an update to my project. Sorry it has been so long. Have been trying a lot of stuff on the yellow brick on the bottom. The "I wonder if?", and "What if?" kind of stuff trying to get what I was hoping for. Not that what I have is good, but thought in my last update it was a little busy. Still need to finish the bricks, or blocks, at the top of the stairs. I also have the last panel in the entry done.

I do hope, once again, that you have had a good weekend!! And it is almost Spring!! I raise my glass, and toast to your good week!!

Original Render (1200X900):

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...14thUpdate.png

ctbram 15-03-2010 06:08 AM

Awesome texturing job OHT!


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