Well, I got a lot farther in the blendshape game only to find that i need to change the base mesh :/ i didn't give myself geometry for the eyebrows, the expression should be more neutral, and when i added the inside of the mouth I wasn't careful to keep it symmetrical, so now i cant use the plugin from highend3d to mirror my blends.....oh well, its all part of the learning process. While I'm at it, Ill see what i can do about those eyes.