Your doing it all wrong (you said I could) no if you under stand that you are doing like I think you do I think thats OK but if you were some one trying to get into the industy I would say that it is good practice to keep to your mesh clean..........dave @ Dave When you say clean topology do you mean, the clean topology option in the releveant tab/menu, Because I dont think I clean mine either ,sorry on and off maya all the time I forget things ??