hence why the render looks quite flat... Ambient lights are baaaaad! seriously! They are IMHO about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike! Just thinking actually look at my old WIP that might give you some ideas on how to light a room in a warm and fuzzy way (i didnt get it 100% right but :p)Oh, BTW, here's one of my renders with the ambient light from outside the windows...