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I suppose you based the idea on Cinema 4D's current marketing strategy which is quite nice - you can even dismember the base package and remove the animation stuff so if I want only a great modeler - I would pay for that only but I wwould expect a FULL featured modeler which in my humble opinion is not what we have in Maya (yet) .
And best of all - BOOKS !
I would like to have the documentation set in a printed form !
even as an option
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They (Alias) will have to resolve this: If I already have Maya Complete - and now they remove the (say) particles from the package - they cannot force me to pay more for it as I already have it !
Imagine them releasing a new version without a renderer and thus forcing you to pay extra for something you already had !
Only new users will be able / forced to pay for the modules separately
I think....
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Sounds like the Houdini approach
They have
Houdini Ecaape
Houdoni Select
Houdini Master
which is set up just like that.
I like Maya the way it is.
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Definitely... Not !Originally posted by LauriePriest
is it really worth upgrading?
Just look at what 3DS Max 6 has in store in its newest upgrade to have that answer.
and a Maya upgrade costs 47 % of the full price !
no ... not me!
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with free upgrades as well 
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I envision that the first release of Framework would be nothing more than a restructuring of the Maya package. All new purchases of Maya would be Framework/Components purchases.Originally posted by nirsul
One problem though:
They (Alias) will have to resolve this: If I already have Maya Complete - and now they remove the (say) particles from the package - they cannot force me to pay more for it as I already have it !
Imagine them releasing a new version without a renderer and thus forcing you to pay extra for something you already had !
Only new users will be able / forced to pay for the modules separately
I think....
Nir
When, finally, a major component release - for example Particles 2.0 - occurs A|W will then see a pretty rapid buy-in to Framework from the current user-community as users start needing the new functionality.
Of course, if they want to keep their user community happy. They would ensure that new Framework files could be used with pre-Framework versions of Maya. Users would be able to render scenes using their current versions of Maya and then, using Framework/Components, render the new cool stuff. A neat little inter-version render management tool by A|W could take care of that very nicely.
Eventually, all users will have moved to Maya F+C and these transitional tools could be dumped.
Complicated, doable, but worth it?
That'll do donkey... that'll do...
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Finally! Someone speaking some sense! Not that many years ago when Maya Complete cost like $16 000, online communities were empty in comparison to today. People are lucky to be able to use Maya at all, most people I know had to wait until they scored a big job at a studio before they even layed eyes on Maya.Originally posted by mtmckinley
Face it, this is production software, not marketed for the at-home hobbyist. Those of us who have maxed our credit cards do so in the hopes our investment will be returned in that of a job eventually.
$7000 for companies making million dollar films is not that much at all. It's only young hobbyists that are complaining. The other day in IRC a kid was complaining that he couldn't afford Maya....and he was in year 6!!! He'd just turned 12!!!!
If you're gonna complain about software prices, Houdini Master costs $17 000! And XSI is usually around $13 000!
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Basically - you are right but in the last years software prices tend to go down , except in cases of software which is almost a monopole (AutoCAD)
and most software company would love to sell 17000 U$ packages to Disney and friends but they need to lice so they will have to sell it to people like us .
Now if Alias choose to not go down this path - there are others that will and as you know low cost 3D packages are getting better every release. 3D Max (currently more expensive than Maya) - get better and one they they may surprise us with a lower price .
Now everybody has particles, Mental Ray etc and ALIAS will loose its advantage.
But you know what - I admire their decision of lowering the price - I wish the rest would , too.
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Nice design but it has nothing to do with the typical design style of the Alias graphics - you did not full me LOL
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